tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post3703847983269476867..comments2024-02-29T16:27:16.015+01:00Comments on Salted Patent: EQE 2019 - Paper CPete Pollardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02725722050785717803noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-22086806579273986212019-10-18T17:07:23.343+02:002019-10-18T17:07:23.343+02:00Just saw this - not sure what's up with the ab...Just saw this - not sure what's up with the above Nina, but it is not the same Nina as this Nina =). I did not get 88 points and didn't provide the sample solution. I wish, haha =)!Ninahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17769517620242361007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-12311348462175000522019-08-25T23:46:00.971+02:002019-08-25T23:46:00.971+02:00Big congratulations! - that is a pretty high score...Big congratulations! - that is a pretty high score :-)Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-38776053415290322152019-08-24T16:17:04.254+02:002019-08-24T16:17:04.254+02:00After all, I got 88 points and provided the sample...After all, I got 88 points and provided the sample solution.Ninahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17769517620242361007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-44437452524772504632019-07-16T16:19:01.479+02:002019-07-16T16:19:01.479+02:00how did you do?how did you do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-43567458170188390792019-04-01T17:45:04.207+02:002019-04-01T17:45:04.207+02:00Thanks Pete! I think I may have to do a repeat run...Thanks Pete! I think I may have to do a repeat run of the B - I'm not the best at it unfortunately =). So in case anyone else is wondering - the scans are online now!Ninahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17769517620242361007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-49951727138122880102019-03-30T19:46:43.540+01:002019-03-30T19:46:43.540+01:00Hi Nina, it was great to meet you again - hopefull...Hi Nina, it was great to meet you again - hopefully, you did enough to pass! Last year, I think it was about half way through April. Maybe someone knows?Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-82242249186496036242019-03-29T11:11:49.907+01:002019-03-29T11:11:49.907+01:00Hi Pete, it was really interesting to read your pe...Hi Pete, it was really interesting to read your perspective on all 4 exams (and also nice seeing you in Munich!). I was wondering if you know by any chance when the scanned copies of our exams will be posted on the EQE portal. Ninahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17769517620242361007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-77366802640760678382019-03-09T19:22:03.238+01:002019-03-09T19:22:03.238+01:00The general rule on C is to attack the claims if y...The general rule on C is to attack the claims if you think you have an argument (just like in real life). So, if you have something, it may be worth marks.Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-62786738947095491272019-03-08T10:17:00.267+01:002019-03-08T10:17:00.267+01:00I hope so.
Claim 2 (alternative KeraSi): A2 + A4 ...I hope so.<br /><br />Claim 2 (alternative KeraSi): A2 + A4 first test + A4 second test.<br /><br />Claim 3 (alternative KeraSi): A2 + A4 first test + A4 second test + General knowledge of A3. (Here I ran out of time)<br /><br />Indeed, it is complicated, the claims 2 and 3 can be attacked completely. As being no man skilled in the art, I did not ask how the layers can be combined, especially I German participantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-56260901216758783002019-03-07T11:17:15.521+01:002019-03-07T11:17:15.521+01:00I have not checked the reasoning - it does make it...I have not checked the reasoning - it does make it a lot more complicated via the second alternative (KeraSi) as you then need to end up with a double layer on alumunium for a steam iron. Did you have a strong attack?Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-546553238398448452019-03-07T09:32:50.282+01:002019-03-07T09:32:50.282+01:00Dear Pete,
I am glad to read this. So you think, t...Dear Pete,<br />I am glad to read this. So you think, that both alternatives of claim 1 were to attack in claim 2 and 3?German participantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-1416668735198961102019-03-04T23:52:14.547+01:002019-03-04T23:52:14.547+01:00The application as filed also includes the claims ...The application as filed also includes the claims as filed. Claim 2 via the Kerasi alternative in claim 1) was disclosed in the original claim set, so there is no Art. 123(2) extension. Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-34521942459033277312019-03-04T23:48:08.385+01:002019-03-04T23:48:08.385+01:00They also look at the number of candidates that fo...They also look at the number of candidates that followed a different interpretation. If it is clear that many did the same, they can adapt the marking.Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-70754085177206390992019-03-04T23:31:32.994+01:002019-03-04T23:31:32.994+01:00In general, they will look at the arguments you ha...In general, they will look at the arguments you have given. They also take into account the number of candidates who also used the "wrong" CPA, and then they decide. Sometimes they will accept both, or subtract a few points. You should also not be penalised more than once for a mistake, so the damage should be limited.Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-72982005013508396222019-03-04T14:31:25.140+01:002019-03-04T14:31:25.140+01:00Dear Pete, Generally, I think it was a doable pape...Dear Pete, Generally, I think it was a doable paper. However, I had some trouble deciding on the closest prior art for claims 4-5. My attacks included the combination of A2 and A6 (plus A5 for claim 5, partial problems). I decided to go for A2 as CPA, but now I think it should have been the other way around. How many points are lost this way (if you choose the wrong CPA, but have the right Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-78664181549734757172019-03-03T13:40:34.920+01:002019-03-03T13:40:34.920+01:00Dear Pete, i actually had the same issue than the ...Dear Pete, i actually had the same issue than the one commented below about the potential combination of layers claim 1 & claim 2 ie. KeraSi + KeraMa + Yur56 which is not disclosed then in the description. <br />The french version is the same as the german one "comme couche KeraMa"= as Kera type layer. Not "the" layer from claim 1.<br />Is that extension of subject matter EQE applicantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-21114722514724060562019-03-03T12:59:09.488+01:002019-03-03T12:59:09.488+01:00Sorry, I do not follow your reasoning completely. ...Sorry, I do not follow your reasoning completely. Even in the EN claim it does not exclude the combination - any additional layers, whatever they, are fall under the scope of the claim.<br />Anyway, this is the reason why you indicate the language that you read the paper in when you hand in your answer. Translation ambiguities can happen, in spite of the checking that goes into it - they will Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-61911148711923643112019-03-03T12:47:17.526+01:002019-03-03T12:47:17.526+01:00I struggled with my attacks on the second alternat...I struggled with my attacks on the second alternative - there seemed to be some incompatibility that made me unsure.Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-49675781472943514132019-03-03T12:43:36.811+01:002019-03-03T12:43:36.811+01:00Thanks for commenting. As my paper will be used by...Thanks for commenting. As my paper will be used by the Committee's for marking, I am not going to post a large portion of my answer, but we can discuss particular problems & issues. Were there claim or other things you had problems with?Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-84622759270887747472019-03-02T12:09:53.266+01:002019-03-02T12:09:53.266+01:00Dear Pete,
I also had a problem to finish. But thi...Dear Pete,<br />I also had a problem to finish. But this depends on the fact, that I wrote in German. Imho, the German claim 2 is different from the English claim 2.<br /><br />The English claim 2 claims a coating comprising a KeraMa layer as _the_ Kera type layer.<br /><br />The German claim 2 claims a coating comprising a KeraMa layer as __ Kera type layer.<br /><br />This means, in the German Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-78092731874894133462019-03-01T09:54:17.026+01:002019-03-01T09:54:17.026+01:00Dear Pete, thanks for your comments! I thought it ...Dear Pete, thanks for your comments! I thought it was a more doable C, when compared to last year, first because the subject was again something we all are familiar with and second because most of the features/effects were more straightforward to spot. I had some doubts about the first set of claims, so went for 4, 5, 6, 7 first. Then back to 2, 3... no time for 1 where I covered only the Art 123Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-39059151538118704872019-03-01T09:03:13.095+01:002019-03-01T09:03:13.095+01:00Dear Pete,
Thank you for your comment (and your w...Dear Pete, <br />Thank you for your comment (and your website!). Would you give us your attacks ?<br />DankeEQE applicantnoreply@blogger.com