tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post6815477639229198347..comments2024-02-29T16:27:16.015+01:00Comments on Salted Patent: e-EQE - A 2021 (EN & DE): copy to try yourself, few technical problemsPete Pollardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02725722050785717803noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-48887975490369291152021-07-17T01:55:51.443+02:002021-07-17T01:55:51.443+02:00Hi Pete, thank you for your suggestions! I will pr...Hi Pete, thank you for your suggestions! I will prepare for EQE 2022 even if I finally decide to file an appeal.<br /><br />Best,<br />TanjaTanjanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-14300758020777900472021-07-16T13:04:48.477+02:002021-07-16T13:04:48.477+02:00Hi Tanja, I have not studied the paper and examine...Hi Tanja, I have not studied the paper and examiner report in detail, so it is difficult for me to give any kind of advice. In principle, alternative feature limitations should be accepted if reasonable. They will at least read your arguments and then decide whether to award marks or to forward to the Disciplinary Board. I am sure you have seen other discussions on appeal - it will usually take aPete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-13689824575896497552021-07-15T05:18:16.491+02:002021-07-15T05:18:16.491+02:00Hi Pete, I am kindly asking for suggestions: if it...Hi Pete, I am kindly asking for suggestions: if it is worth to appeal against the 0 mark given to my independent product claim as follows:<br /><br />1. A coated engine component (10, 20) comprising:<br />a superalloy substrate (11,21) coated with a thermally insulating layer of a ceramic oxide (13, 23) having a columnar microstructure,<br />wherein the columnar ceramic oxide layer (13, 23) Tanjanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-7840741322051522672021-03-05T17:37:34.059+01:002021-03-05T17:37:34.059+01:00Thanks Pete - surely epi would have clearly noted ...Thanks Pete - surely epi would have clearly noted and understood that the format and arrangement was not feasible, what was epi's involvement regarding the new layout etc., surely there must have been issues raised during the organisation and if not, I'd be surprised to find out why etc. if they are to support candidates.<br />Been quite a frustrating week tbh and I just don't think Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-78051488651244443092021-03-05T09:23:49.545+01:002021-03-05T09:23:49.545+01:00The EQE is organised jointly by the epi and EPO, s...The EQE is organised jointly by the epi and EPO, so they are fully involved at all board levels and in all committees.<br />One part of the EPO is usually responsible for the giving the exam and collecting all the papers. This year, the epi were heavily involved behind the scenes, so they are also fully aware of all the issues.<br />However, it does no harm for people to raise the issues with thePete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-15397889377634469622021-03-05T09:21:08.353+01:002021-03-05T09:21:08.353+01:00No problem with the ranting. It is a professional ...No problem with the ranting. It is a professional qualification exam, so that is how it should be experienced.<br />The EQE is organised jointly by the epi and EPO, so they are fully involved at all board levels and in all committees. <br />One part of the EPO is usually responsible for the giving the exam and collecting all the papers. This year, the epi were heavily involved behind the scenes, Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-11431846533120227042021-03-05T09:02:27.900+01:002021-03-05T09:02:27.900+01:00I know under exam conditions, you are prone to mak...I know under exam conditions, you are prone to make more mistakes but these set of papers have brought out the worse. I've made so many mistakes everywhere in every paper. Never like this during the mocks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-80623929334295475942021-03-05T09:00:16.347+01:002021-03-05T09:00:16.347+01:00Thanks Peter for your input and continuous support...Thanks Peter for your input and continuous support. This year's exam has made it very clear that there is a need for an organization that can lobby for the interest of the candidates. Hopefully the epi will be supportive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-57198362740478603242021-03-05T08:49:53.410+01:002021-03-05T08:49:53.410+01:00I have never known an exam board that really messe...I have never known an exam board that really messes with peoples careers or mental state as much as the EPO have this year with the EQE. Stress levels through the rough. I couldn't even have a proper sleep after the D paper from shaking most of the day after that exam. And, as for last night, tossing and turning with worry - not good for the body or mind. They don't seem to care about theAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-29720257823638556022021-03-05T08:23:16.786+01:002021-03-05T08:23:16.786+01:00That's the problem with reading things online....That's the problem with reading things online. Some words or phrases can be very easily missedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-17498336317642195882021-03-05T08:21:00.295+01:002021-03-05T08:21:00.295+01:00One does hope so this year.
As an example, I had ...One does hope so this year.<br /><br />As an example, I had no time to fully deal with the amendments section in paper B yesterday. I decided it was better to move on to other sections and argue or provide basis why some of the client amendments work, so hopefully clawed back some marks for skipping over amendment section. I still ran out of time completely though.<br /><br />One of the biggest Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-6563112600265779382021-03-05T00:15:08.253+01:002021-03-05T00:15:08.253+01:00The communication has been pretty poor and it woul...The communication has been pretty poor and it would have helped if someone had explained what was going on earlier (the first EPO webinar was very good).<br />They decided to make it possible to take the exams in any location, including your own home (that turned out to be 100% correct with all the current restrictions). <br />Apparently, WISEflow and LockDown Browser was the only suitable Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-57676797508502355592021-03-04T23:25:27.937+01:002021-03-04T23:25:27.937+01:00The split of paper C tomorrow will be interesting....The split of paper C tomorrow will be interesting. I had so much trouble about it during the mocks. It was the same for paper B in that the current format simply does not work well online. I gave them feedback on this but nothing was changed. I am in favour of online exams but its clear current format of B doesn't work well. Formatting is horrendous and then flicking between amended claims, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-66500201227126531652021-03-04T23:21:38.517+01:002021-03-04T23:21:38.517+01:00I do wonder if the EPO are pushing what they think...I do wonder if the EPO are pushing what they think they can get away with for the online exams so that it can maybe help them prepare for future years. It seems that they have pushed it too far this year with these papers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-91207414906453194592021-03-04T23:17:12.748+01:002021-03-04T23:17:12.748+01:00I agree. As papers A and B have been moved to be a...I agree. As papers A and B have been moved to be aimed at both chemists and non-chemist's, it did seem to be more in favour of the non-chemist.<br /><br />It takes a chemist so much more time to understand what is going on simply because they are not used to reading such claim. This is the first time of the combined papers that I felt was not designed for all candidates from all backgrounds.<Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-35013574501060391392021-03-04T23:10:47.557+01:002021-03-04T23:10:47.557+01:00Pete. Thanks for comforting many of us candidates ...Pete. Thanks for comforting many of us candidates especially this year. Been such a tough year altogether. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-32716449440356251332021-03-04T22:56:13.554+01:002021-03-04T22:56:13.554+01:00You really can't predict how the papers will b...You really can't predict how the papers will be marked, especially this year. Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-88742399188995473002021-03-04T22:51:49.003+01:002021-03-04T22:51:49.003+01:00But it is not fair to just put it on a paper - the...But it is not fair to just put it on a paper - there should be a proper syllabus of what could be tested so that you can practice.Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-58275321935608623152021-03-04T22:44:49.253+01:002021-03-04T22:44:49.253+01:00... and EU designs and Trademarks would also be go...... and EU designs and Trademarks would also be good. It is ridiculous that patent attorneys are not really trained in this at European level (not a focus, but enough to know the basics). Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-70313956773120086872021-03-04T22:43:45.165+01:002021-03-04T22:43:45.165+01:00I feeling awful today, it was a very difficult and...I feeling awful today, it was a very difficult and strange paper but thought I got the main amendment to argue inventive step. But, in a frantic rush, I seem to left alot of formatting errors in my amended claims, and didn't amend the claims that much either. This was really due to time pressures that I had to move on (I had a strict time schedule). Even then novelty and IS were massively Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-44291128615257030232021-03-04T22:41:36.926+01:002021-03-04T22:41:36.926+01:00You can raise it with your national patent attorne...You can raise it with your national patent attorney association or the epi.<br />They have to shorten the pieces anyway so they can keep doing it online - it would also be good to consider how relevant it is to daily work, and especially after the Pre-Exam, there is a lot of overlap in what is being tested. And overlap in the legal preparation.<br />For example:<br />Pre-Exam: only legal Pete Pollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914699133722171472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-10942896662939396392021-03-04T22:38:56.575+01:002021-03-04T22:38:56.575+01:00thanks Pete. thanks Pete. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-84737656650588702382021-03-04T22:33:42.066+01:002021-03-04T22:33:42.066+01:00I spent more time copying and pasting amended clai...I spent more time copying and pasting amended claims and formatting claims in the text editor. It really wasn't doable.<br /><br />I ended up having to skip the last claim 6 and just trusted client's amendments because I simply had no time left to deal with CII claim. I had to move on to basis/clarity/novelty/inventive step and even then it was very rushed job. <br /><br />Yes, its CII Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-60027529239244522462021-03-04T22:23:59.710+01:002021-03-04T22:23:59.710+01:00Ok thanks Pete, will do.
As for issues in A, yes ...Ok thanks Pete, will do.<br /><br />As for issues in A, yes I think it was a tricky paper and not what we normally expect but it was still a doable paper. Today's B seems to actually be defective it needs to be noted, particularly since this year is the first using the new online type system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777415855032868397.post-16608377622786408252021-03-04T22:07:38.284+01:002021-03-04T22:07:38.284+01:00The level of difficulty of the EQE exam by far sur...The level of difficulty of the EQE exam by far surpasses the knowledge and skills that are required for a patent attorney to be fit for practice in real life. One could wonder if the goal of the EQE is in fact to test a person's ability to practice or perhaps stop others from entering an elite club of qualified attorney (perhaps with higher salaries). The latter would not be in the interest Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com